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40k Medical Transfers by Light-Tricks 40k Medical Transfers by Light-Tricks
*Update* - white version here [link] and red version here [link]
Voting has now closed :)

I am currently making up some medical symbol transfers, both for the Officio Medicae and the Imperial Guard Medical types.

But I need your help... From the composite image above, please pick two options from one of the winged caduceus symbols listed from A to D - this is the Imperial Guard one that will appearing most commonly on troops, equipment and vehicles.

Also, please could you pick two from the Imperial "I" symbols, as used by the majority of the branches of the Imperium, listed 1 - 7. These will be the choices of the "official" Ordo Medicae symbol.

These will also appear on crates, panniers and outbuildings and the like. Number 3 is an adaption of the previous "I Asclepius", but made to look less like an inverse dollar sign.... On this I have also added some decorative gubbins (partly as an attempt at subliminally referencing the six-pointed Star of Life, and also a Red (or Black) Cross of sorts). Number 4 is based on the Bowl of Hygieia, a symbol often associated with pharmacists (outside of the UK that is, it's pretty unknown here). If you like one of the I symbols without the gubbins but think they look good, just add that to your comments - and vice versa if you like the symbol they are already on (3) but think the gubbins are bloody awful, tell me.

So which ones most clearly indicates medical, grimdark, 40k, and the Imperium? Or which ones look the coolest basically... thanks very much, your help is much appreciated. Once the votes have been rounded up and promptly cut up, burned, and buried in soft peat for 3 months counted, I'll upload the transfer sheet so you can all print out your own on transfer paper. The four most popular symbols will be put on the sheet in 3 sizes, along with a few other miscellaneous logos/symbols/designs etc.

Please pop your answers in the comments below, and thanks very much for your help!
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:iconjknmg:
jknmg Featured By Owner Edited Sep 7, 2014
D 4
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:iconatfricks:
atfricks Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2013
b 1 4

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FupDuckTV Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013
B + 4
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EvilGermanTier Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012
The Ouroboros is present here [link]
in the Millenium logo,great series which haunted me as a child.
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Light-Tricks Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012   Interface Designer
:)
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EvilGermanTier Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012
I clearly like A & C more.

A because the serpents are chunkier and they look more sinisterly imposing.
And C because it's basically a more compact version of A.

Imperium choices would be 1, 4 & 6.

I like the one where the Serpent chases his own tale, because it's significant in Nordic mythology.
And it's the serpent that kills Thor in Ragnarok.
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Light-Tricks Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012   Interface Designer
Excellent, a compacted A is what made it onto the packages :) I think I'm going with 3, but 6/7 are being used in other ways as is 4 - [link]

Good ol' Jormungandr :) There seems o be a lot of that symbology in mythology, this one was meant to reflect Ouroboros, which his connotations of rebirth. But it looks a bit too Tzeentch-y and Genestealer-y I think. But I'm glad you like it though :)
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wingsofwrath Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Frankly I would go with either 1 or 6.

D is also a nice design, but it features the Caduceus instead of the Rod of Asclepius and that is more a symbol of commerce than a symbol of medicine. The US Army Medical Corps got it dead wrong when they chose their symbol back in 1902 and went with the flashier two-snakes-and-wings.
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Light-Tricks Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012   Interface Designer
Thanks very much

I am very much aware of that :) As well as being a mercantile symbol, it also has connotations of scheming and cunning - hence why the Delaque badge is very similar imo.

I decide to utilise the Caduceus (in addition to the Rod of Ascelpius, and Bowl of Hygieia) for several reasons:

1. It mirrors the double helix nicely. It has connotations of the helix utilisied by the Marine Apothecaries.

2. Games Workshop (erroneously) continued it's use into the 41st Millennium themselves, beyond the US Army use (although it's now used much more widely than the US army and I'm more interest in perception and association/regonition rather than strict accuracy). Whislt the caduceus shouldn't be a medical symbol today, in reality, it is.

3. I assume it's usage in the future is not actually as the Caduceus or the Rod of Asclepius, but has its own origin story/myth (which I've yet to make up).

Hope this covers my reasoning (and doesn't sound arsey, it's not meant to in the slightest)
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wingsofwrath Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, don't worry, I wasn't criticising your choice of the symbol (especially since it's used in a fictional 41 Millennium setting) but merely expressing my preference. Besides, it might be a sad truth for us pedants out there, but symbols evolve overtime or acquire new meanings, so griping over the current misuse of the Caduceus as a medical symbol would be pointless as long as most people looking at it understand the basic message being imparted.

Speaking of the Prime Helix of the Marine Apothecaries, It would be interesting if you tried to make a version with angular snakes to better reflect the similarity.
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